Sky Bergman is an accomplished award-winning photographer and filmmaker. She is a professor emeritus of photography and video at Cal Poly State University. Her inaugural documentary, Lives Well Lived, explores the inspiring stories of 40 people with 3000 years of collective life experience and how to live life to its fullest.
“My grandmother had a motto to always be kind. And I think that that’s the biggest piece of advice of how to live a life well-lived, is just to be kind.” – Sky Bergman
In this episode, you will learn the following:
- How connecting generations breaks down stereotypes one story at a time.
- The importance of a good support system.
- Check your attitude. Look at life as a glass half full.
- The importance of a sense of purpose, no matter how old you get.
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Wendy Green:
Speaker:Hello and welcome to the Hey Boomer Show, the show where we believe that we are never too
Wendy Green:
Speaker:old to set another goal or dream a new dream.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:My name is Wendy Green and I am your host for Hey, Boomer.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Today, we're going to talk about a documentary called Lives Well Lived.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:And we're going to talk about what makes a well-lived life.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:My guest today, Skye Bergmann, captured stories of older adults living full and
Wendy Green:
Speaker:meaningful lives in their later years.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Their stories are about perseverance, the human spirit, and staying positive during
Wendy Green:
Speaker:great personal and historic challenges.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Sky's inspiration, original inspiration for the documentary was her grandmother.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Who turned 103 and traveled out to California for the opening of lives well
Wendy Green:
Speaker:lived. And I started to think about who some of my inspiration has come from.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:And it's no doubt that it has come from both of my parents.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:My father, he lived full out until he was not able to anymore.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:But even as he was nearing the end of his life, he was working on a play about Irving
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Berlin, which my mother actually continued to work on and finished and produced at the
Wendy Green:
Speaker:retirement home where they live.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So he certainly was an inspiration to me and my mother, who got her PhD in her sixties.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:She was active in the League of Women Voters and AAUW in Rotary, and she ran an
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Alzheimer's support group.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:And it's only in the past few years that she has slowed down really since the pandemic.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So I have been definitely inspired with the work I'm doing with Hey Boomer, by both of my
Wendy Green:
Speaker:parents, as Skye was inspired by her grandmother.
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Speaker:complimentary conversation.
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Speaker:Talk about where you're at, where you want to be, and figure out what might be next for
Wendy Green:
Speaker:you. That's Wendy at.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Hey Boomer is.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So Sky Bergman is an accomplished, award winning photographer and lives well lived
Wendy Green:
Speaker:with Skye's directorial debut in the film making industry.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Skye is a professor emeritus of photography and video at Cal Poly State University in San
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Luis Obispo, California.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:She has two short films about intergenerational connections currently on
Wendy Green:
Speaker:the film festival circuit, and she's working on a feature length film that is a
Wendy Green:
Speaker:celebration of love.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Sky was recently named a CO Generate Innovation fellow, joining an impressive
Wendy Green:
Speaker:group of 14 other social entrepreneurs with code generational solutions to some of
Wendy Green:
Speaker:today's biggest problems.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:These 15 inspiring social entrepreneurs bring older and younger people together to
Wendy Green:
Speaker:address racial inequality, climate change, social, social isolation and more.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Sky is fascinating.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Wonderful. I'm excited to bring her to you.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So let's bring her on right now.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Hi, Sky.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Hi. How are you doing, Wendy?
Wendy Green:
Speaker:I'm doing great.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:I'm so appreciative to have you on the show today.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Oh, it's my pleasure to be here.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Thanks so much for inviting me.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Yeah. So I mentioned your grandmother.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Tell me a little bit about how she inspired you and how this all got started with lives
Wendy Green:
Speaker:well-lived.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Sure. So I should say that I've never done any filmmaking before this film.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I my grandmother, when I was she was 96.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:She came out to visit me for the first time from Florida.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I live in California.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And for the next four years, she spent the month of August with me, which if you've ever
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:been in Florida in August, it's a good time to get out and be in California.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And she was an amazing cook.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And like any other amazing cook, they never write recipes down.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:My grandmother is no exception.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I realized that we would go to the farmer's market on Thursday and Friday.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:We would be cooking all day, and I really wanted to capture her cooking and capture
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:those recipes more than just writing them down.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I wanted to hear her voice and she would say, It's a pinch of that and a handful of
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:this, and I really wanted to see that.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so I started my first foray into doing any video work, which was to capture my
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:grandmother cooking in the kitchen.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:That was what bonded us and brought us together when I was from the time that I was
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:a young kid. And so we did this series of cooking videos called Cucina Nonna, which
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:means Grandma's Kitchen and Italian.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And it was just so, so wonderful to do that with my grandmother.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I'm so glad that I have that as a record for myself and my family and other people to take
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:a look at. And when she was getting ready to turn 100, I went back with her to Florida and
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:she was still working out at the gym.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:She started working out when she was 80, so it's never too late to start something new,
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:including working out at the gym.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:But I thought I better film her because nobody's going to believe that at almost 100,
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:she's still working out at the gym.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I asked her for a few words.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I said, Grandma, can you give me a few words of wisdom?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And she said, Oh, words of wisdom.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Be kind and live life to the limits.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I thought, wow, this is she's such a role model for me.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I was looking at approaching 50, which is a big mark, I think, in people's lives
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:when they approach that half century mark.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I was looking around at the media and not seeing any positive role models of aging,
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:and this was ten years ago.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:So at that time all you saw really were the very depressing movies about aging or in the
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:advertising world.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:What you saw were all the anti aging creams and everything that you could do to stop the
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:aging process. But let's face it, the one thing we all have in common, if we're lucky,
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:is that we age every day.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Otherwise we are not alive anymore.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so we really I really wanted to highlight from myself, really, it started as
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:a very personal journey.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I wanted to find other people out there, like my grandmother, who were living very
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:full and meaningful lives because I wanted to find those role models that I just wasn't
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:seeing in the media.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so I spent the next four years interviewing 40 people with a collective life
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:experience of 3000 years and asking them all the same set of questions and really putting
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:all devices away and really just intently listening for four years.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And what a what a gift that was.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And as a result of that, I was able to put together this film, lives well lived, which
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:is unbelievably to me is now airing on PBS.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I mean, my first film and it did well in theaters and now we're on PBS and just what a
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:dream come true. And it all started from a love of my grandmother.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:It's a great film.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:As I was telling you before we came on, I was watching it again this weekend because I
Wendy Green:
Speaker:just wanted to refresh and there's so many wonderful lessons in there.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:And you start the film by asking them what is a life well lived?
Wendy Green:
Speaker:What kind of answers?
Wendy Green:
Speaker:What did you learn from that question?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:No. Well, one of my favorite answers was that it was from Barbara Dreyfuss.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And she says, Life plays with you, doesn't it?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I suppose then you have to allow for that.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Being flexible, being, having your your attitude is, I think, one of the most
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:important things in how you live your life.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I think also just being kind and and living in the moment, I think those are things that
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:are part of a life well lived is is really learning to really treasure each and every
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:moment. And when we reflect back on our lives, it's not the sometimes times the big
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:events, but the little things that are really meaningful to people.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so I think remembering that on a day to day basis that sometimes you can do something
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:very, very small but can seem very monumental to somebody else when you're being
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:kind. I think it's just, you know, my grandmother had a motto to always be kind.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think that that's the biggest piece of advice of how to live a well lived life is
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:just to be kind.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Yeah, be kind and be present in the moment.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:That is that was interesting to me that that came out with several of the people in the
Wendy Green:
Speaker:show and mindfulness.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:We didn't talk about mindfulness back in their generation.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:They're mostly the greater greatest generation.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So that was really interesting to me that they're recognizing the importance of that to
Wendy Green:
Speaker:be present.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So I really enjoyed that.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So you had never done a film before.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:What was that learning process like?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Well, we have a motto here at the university that I teach at.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I teach at Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo, California, and the motto is learn.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:By doing so, we expect that our students are going to learn by doing.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I would say that I was living that motto as I was creating the film.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:You know, I've always lived my life saying instead of saying why, I say why not?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I always try and have my decisions based on curiosity over fear.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so I think that that was really important, that I follow my passion, even
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:when it may seem like a strange road to take if I follow my passion, it has never led me
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:in the wrong direction. And so I just knew that I had to do this.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I didn't know I was going to be making a film.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:When I started this process, I thought I was going to be doing a web series and just a
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:series of interviews. I just knew that it was something that I had to do for myself.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And as I got deeper into it, I realized that I really needed to make a feature film.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:It's probably good that I didn't know what I was getting myself in for at the very
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:beginning, but I think if you put one step in front of the next, one foot in front of
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:the next, and you can take something that's very monumental and break it down into
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:smaller tasks and you get one task done after the next, and then you get to this big
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:goal. And that was pretty much what I did.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I also was lucky enough that I was able to hire people to help me with things that I
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:didn't know how to do. And I also think that I am one of those people.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:If I don't know how to do something, I am not afraid to show.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I don't know how to do it. I'm not afraid to ask for help.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so I reached out to in the very beginning to other filmmakers and ask them a
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:lot of questions. I said, How did you do this and what advice can you give me?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I'm always looking for advice on how to do something better and to surround myself
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:with people that are doing what I want to be doing, but already doing it and doing it
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:better so that I can rise to the occasion and do what they're doing.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I also, at the time that I started working on the film, Apple had this plan where you
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:could get one on one help from people at the Apple store.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so I that's what I did.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:There were three guys at the Apple Store who I call my Apple gurus, and I had no they knew
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:about video backwards and forwards.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:They got a kick out of me coming in and asking lots of questions, and I was in there
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:as much as I could be to learn from them.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I was like a sponge, learning from them, learning the verbiage.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I don't even know how to Google to ask the right question because I didn't even know the
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:terminology. And you know, again, being willing to say to somebody, I have no idea,
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:but this is what I want to do, Can you help me get there?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And they were instrumental in helping me get to the place where I now understand the
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:language of filmmaking and and was able to do it.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Yeah, I. I totally understand that.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:When I started making this podcast, I was listening to all of the the talk from the
Wendy Green:
Speaker:podcasters and I had no idea what they were talking about.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So it is it's a learning process, but if you're not afraid or even if you are a little
Wendy Green:
Speaker:afraid and you still do it afraid, but you ask questions and you figure out how to get
Wendy Green:
Speaker:the help. I think that and you said the passion.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:You have to have the passion.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Yeah, Yeah.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Look, you know, I was not a good interviewer when I started.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I look back at my initial interviews and I think, oh my goodness, I just I had this
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:list of questions that I had spent like four months working on.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I, I realized, look, I work at a university and I took out people that worked in the
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:social sciences department.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I took them out for lunch and I said, I'm working on this project.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:What are the questions I should be asking?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Here's what I'm looking at.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:What would you add to this list?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so I really worked on refining those questions.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:But I remember the first couple of interviews that I did, I just felt like I had
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:to go down the list of questions and I wasn't asking the follow up questions.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And thankfully, the people that I interviewed let me go back and redo the
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:interviews many times.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:But, you know, you learn you learn by doing learn.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:It's like anything else.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:You practice and doing an interview.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:The more practice you have, the better you get at it.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I'm sure the same is true for you.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Your first couple of podcasts probably didn't go as smoothly as the ones now, and I
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:think it's just, you know, you learn as you go.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And and certainly I think being open to that and open to recognizing that if you get some
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:feedback sometimes from people, that's really helpful to maybe improve and do a
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:better job the next time.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Absolutely. Yeah.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So, so now you are a filmmaker and you've got two more films out in the in the circuit.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Can you tell me about them?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Yeah, sure. So the one film is called Forever Voters, and it came about because I was
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:trying to find a time to go to lunch with one of the people that's in Lives We Lived,
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:one of the film stars and lives well lived.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Her name is Evie Johnson, and she was saying how busy she was and she's running from
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:hither and yon. And I said, Well, what are you doing?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:She said, Well, I'm part of the League of Women Voters, and we're going into high
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:schools and we're talking to the high school seniors about the importance of voting and
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:why their vote really matters.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And we're encouraging those students to register or pre register to vote.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:In California, you can pre register if you're 16 and above.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I was so inspired by that because in the lives we all live film, my grandmother talks
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:about having been born at a time when women didn't have the right to vote and she
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:remembered women marching to get the right to vote.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so in our household, voting was really a privilege that you didn't take for granted.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so she and my grandfather used to work the polls every year when I was a kid.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I remember that vividly.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so when I heard about this initiative that the League of Women Voters was doing, I
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:was so inspired that by the end of the week, I was in the classroom filming that process
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:and also filming the students talking about what they wanted to vote about.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Because I think there is a real misperception that that age group doesn't
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:care, and that couldn't be further from the truth.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think that there are some issues that are very important to them and they really
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:just you could see them light up when this group of of older men and women came into the
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:classroom and really took them seriously and told them, you know, your voice matters and
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:we want you to be able to vote.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:We care that your vote matters.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And for many of them, it was the first time that somebody other than a parent or a
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:teacher had talked to them about voting and the importance of voting and really that they
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:were talked to as an adult in that way.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And it's really it was such a magical moment to see that.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:So that's one film, and I'm still working on that project in terms.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Of so let me just repeat the name of that forever.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Voters, you can look at it, it's on the web.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:There's a website forever voters dot com, right?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Correct. Yes.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:And and and I did forward it to our local league here because I thought it was such a
Wendy Green:
Speaker:great idea.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Yeah. So we're we're trying to grow that from a very local campaign here in San Luis Obispo
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:to a national campaign.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so that was one film that I worked on and it's been in the film festival circuit,
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:which is great because it's getting the word out about that project and about what we can
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:do to help encourage young voters to register to vote.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And we don't just want them to register to vote.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:We really want them to become lifetime voters.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And one of the things that I read when I was doing the research for the film is that if
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:someone votes in three out of their first four elections that are more likely to become
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:a lifetime voter.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:So it's really important to get those young students out there voting and understanding
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:that their voice and their vote really matters.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:So that was one film that I've.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Worked on. On the other film, which I've done a five minute short, which has been in
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:film festivals and won awards throughout the country, is called Mochizuki, and it is the
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Japanese tradition of making mochi to bring in the New Year.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And that also came about because of Somebody in My Lives will live film Suzy Ito Bauman,
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:who, for those of you that haven't seen the film, she was incarcerated during World War
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Two because she was part of the Japanese-American internment.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And we talk about that in the Lives Will Live film.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:But she was also talking to me about this Mochizuki ceremony.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I said to her, Well, okay, tell me more.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And it was it's such a beautiful ceremony.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And it was happening a couple of weeks after I interviewed her.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And she invited me to come and I was just hooked.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:It's a beautiful ceremony that brings generations together.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Sort of like I came together with my grandmother in the kitchen.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I love this idea of passing down tradition and love and recipes and wisdom through food,
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:through that connection, through food.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And the ceremony that I went to, there were over 150 people that come from up and down
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:the West Coast. And you take this very particular rice and you cook it up and then
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:they pound it to make these mochi balls.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And it's a beautiful ceremony.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And that's going to be on the extended version of that film will be on PBS in May of
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:2024.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So and how do you spell that?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Sky Mochi Mochizuki is m0chitsuki.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:It's a long word, but it just means.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So it is one word m0chit.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Sue k i.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I've seen it spelled as two words and I've seen it spelled as one word because it's a
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Japanese word. So I think it depends on who's translating it, right.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Yeah. So.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Yeah. So and I've seen the I've seen the trailers for both of those, the voters one
Wendy Green:
Speaker:and the Mochizuki one.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So yeah, very, very good.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So you've also now been nominated to do some work with co generate and and I think if I
Wendy Green:
Speaker:understood you took this film the lives well lived which you all have to see I'm telling
Wendy Green:
Speaker:you everybody who's listening now, you've got to see lives well lived.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:You can see it on PBS.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:You can buy it on Amazon on on the website, Lives well lived.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:You can see ways to watch it, but.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Um. Somehow you were working with an intern or I think who kind of got you thinking about
Wendy Green:
Speaker:how to bring this to younger generations.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Is that right?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Well, I can I can tell you a little bit about that.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I had a student that I was working with because any time I did an interview, I tried
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:to bring a student with me so that they could learn about the process.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I had a student whose name was James, and he went on the interview with me for
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Lucky Louie, who for those of you again that haven't seen the film, he's hilarious.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:He's just a really one of my favorites.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And we've finished that interview.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And James and I went out to lunch and James said to me, Wow, I never knew that older
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:people could talk so much.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I haven't grown up in a very intergenerational household.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I had four generations when I grew up.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:My great grandmother was still alive until I was 19 and lived with my grandparents and I
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:lived with my grandparents. So we had four generations in the house.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I knew that older people could talk a lot and had lots of conversations with older
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:adults, including my grandparents, my great grandmother, my grandparents friends.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:So I was kind of taken aback by that.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I said to him, Well, don't you have an older adult in your life?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And he said, Yeah, I have a grandfather, but we don't really talk that much.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And and it just so happened that it was right before Thanksgiving weekend.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I said to him, I want you to take this list of questions that we just asked like
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Louie. And your homework is to take these questions and ask like Louie these questions,
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:or ask your grandfather these questions we just asked Lucky Louie.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And he came back from that trip and he was just beaming from ear to ear because, you
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:know, I think he wanted to get to know his grandfather better and his grandfather really
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:wanted to know him better, but they just didn't know how to start the conversation.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think that that's super important to figure out where that entree is.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And on our website, there's a place where you can share your stories or you can
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:download the questions that I asked.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I would say, you know, the biggest regret that people had who were that I asked
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:in the film was not asking a question of somebody that had passed away.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:So don't let that happen to you.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Use those questions.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Use me as an excuse to ask these questions and have this dialogue.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:So that was my first experience of realizing, wow, you know, there is something
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:here in terms of connecting generations and how we can do that, because certainly I was
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:doing that as I was connecting with all the people that I interviewed for the film.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And and then I had an experience where the film was released in theaters, and there was
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:a student that went to go see the film who was in a class here at Cal Poly called The
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Psychology of Aging.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And she reported back to her teacher, Professor Sarah Bartlett, and said, Oh my
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:God, I saw this film and you should see it.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And the professor went to see it and then realized that we both worked at the same
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:university and reached out to me and said, Wow, I would love to meet with you and let's
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:figure something out. And so we came up with a program that we work with, and now it's
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:running with high schools and colleges across the country.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:But I've been documenting this one here where we show the film to older adults and to
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:students, and then the students and older adults use the questions that I had
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:formulated to get to know each other.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:They spend three or four sessions that they meet with on their own doing that.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And then there's a big wrap party at the end.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And it's really a lovely program because it's, you know, it's connecting generations
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:and breaking down those stereotypes about ageism, one story and one connection at a
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:time. And let's face it, ageism is in both directions.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:You know, we as older adults, many of us have stereotypes about younger people and
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:vice versa. And so the more that we can do to connect people from other generations
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:together, the better off that we will be.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:We really need that.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Our world needs healing and we really need to do a lot of connecting people so that we
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:don't have the other, that we are all an age diverse society living together rather than
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:saying You're from that generation, so I'm not going to talk to you thinking, Wow, I had
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:this really great interaction with somebody from that other generation.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And now I have the friend from another generation and now I'm more open to seeking
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:out friendships of all ages.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Yeah, and there's a lot more work that's starting to go on in that direction.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So I'm excited. About what?
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Yeah, I'm excited about what you're doing with intergenerational work.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Are you finding that people are recognizing similarities mean what are some of the
Wendy Green:
Speaker:learnings you're seeing?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Yeah, I think the biggest takeaway that I have heard is the students and the older
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:adults realize that they have far more in common than differences and that really the
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:only big difference is their age.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think the students, even more so than the older adults, are kind of blown away by
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:that because they realize that the older adults are going through.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:A lot of the same have already gone through a lot of the same things that they're going
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:through now. I think one of the the joys and one of the reasons that the program works so
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:well is that showing the lives will live film first.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:We in the film, there's a lot of first hand accounts of things that happened and you see
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:people at a younger age.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so the students start relating to that in a very different way and seeing older
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:adults as having had this whole life history and they can start realizing, okay, they were
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:my age at one point as well.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so there there creates a bond that there wasn't there before.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so I think it's really about noticing the similarities over the differences.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And it's so wonderful to see that we work with Senior Planet, which is part of AARP
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:when we do it virtually, which we're doing this quarter and we did during the pandemic.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I will never forget there was one young student who came on and said that this
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:through this project, it was the first new friend that they had made during the
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:pandemic. And I thought, what a great gift it was during the pandemic that they were
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:able to make a new friend who is an older adult.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Because I think that if you looked at what was going on during the pandemic, the two
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:groups of people that were really suffering the most, that were having the most
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:loneliness were older adults and students.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so to bring those two groups together was was really quite a gift.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Well, I think it's also, like you said, you know, they recognize that there are less
Wendy Green:
Speaker:differences. But I think it's also learning the history.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:You know, like if they spoke to somebody like your grandmother, they learn about the
Wendy Green:
Speaker:women's suffrage movement or they speak to somebody that was in the Japanese internment
Wendy Green:
Speaker:camp. In return, we're learning about what some of their struggles are having faced the
Wendy Green:
Speaker:pandemic or I guess 9/11.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:They're probably a little older now.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:But, you know, there have been certainly struggles that they've faced.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:And I think trying to understand each other's history probably helps build those
Wendy Green:
Speaker:bonds as well.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Absolutely. And, you know, I'm I'm reminded of when I was doing the filming for the
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Forever Voters film, I actually had a very unique experience in that I was at a high
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:school and the principal came on and said, We're getting a lot of phone calls from
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:parents today that something's you know, there's some chatter that something's going
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:to happen in the school today.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Nothing's going to happen.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Please stop spreading those rumors.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And that was a bit odd.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And then we went back to what we were doing.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:That was a Friday. There was a big football day.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:We went to a big there was a big football rally.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And then when we came back, there was a fire alarm that went off and the students didn't
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:move because they didn't know, Is this a fire alarm or is somebody pulling the fire
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:alarm and there's going to be a school shooting?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And that is just something that I never faced in my lifetime at school.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so I think it's really easy to say as older adults, oh, well, the younger
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:generation, they're not dealing with this and they're dealing with very different
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:things.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:And very different things.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Climate change and school shootings.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And, you know, there's so many different issues that are on the table for them.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And it really hit home for me on that day.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And in fact, there actually was a fire and we had to get out of the building.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:But it was that pause that that very long pause where the students just didn't know
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:what to do, that I found incredibly compelling.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And it really brought home the differences of what they have to face in today's world.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Yeah, it's it's amazing.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:And when some of the research I did, I was expecting gun violence or climate change to
Wendy Green:
Speaker:be like the number one issue these kids are facing.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:But mental health because of all of these things coming together is yeah, it's pretty,
Wendy Green:
Speaker:pretty remarkable.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So I appreciate the work that you're doing from some of the people in the film.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Tell me about some that have really inspired you.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Oh, you know, I'd like to say that my grandmother left me the greatest gift, which
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:is 40 new grandparents, because I just feel like I have these wonderful, wonderful people
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:that I can call on.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And some of them have passed away.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:But, you know, I had lunch with Evie earlier this week.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I'm having dinner with Paul Wolfe next week.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:You I just I feel very close to all these people.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I forever am thinking about their words of wisdom.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think that especially during the pandemic, when you hear their stories, they
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:are really stories of getting through difficult times and and really of resilience.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think that there are times in our lives where we all have a bad day.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:But I think of some of their stories and it puts it into perspective and for me at least,
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:and it gives me a really a nice attitude adjustment and a big shift in my day.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think that for me, one of the most impactful people that I interviewed, I mean,
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I love. All but one of the most impactful things that I learned was when Justice and
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:talked about she read the book Men Search for Meaning by Victor Frank, and she talked
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:about her takeaway from it was that there are many times in your life that you cannot
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:control the things that are happening around you, but what you can control is your
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:attitude about how you deal with those things.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And for me, that is a really good reminder.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And there are days when I know I need to give myself an attitude adjustment.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And it's really because of listening to Evy, because I then read Viktor Frankl's Man's
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Search for Meaning. I mean, all those things just it opened me up to different ideas.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I also think Blanche Brown really reiterated kind of living more in the moment.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think that when we at least for me, when I was younger, I was so caught up in
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:doing my job and everything.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:You know, sometimes you forget about just taking a moment to pause and really
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:appreciating where you're at at that moment.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think that I do that more consciously now that I really try to slow down and
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:prioritize having that moment to just enjoy.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I go for a walk every day and I, I religiously carve out that time because
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:that's my time to just enjoy the moment and to really enjoy the day.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Well, you need that sky.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:I mean, you are doing so many things and you don't have much of a staff, is that right?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:That is correct. I have a couple things who are wonderful, who are working as insurance
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:for me. I did, though I will say that I had some really good people working for me on the
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:film and to give them credit, I had two friends of mine who decided that their titles
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:were associate producer Katherine Trujillo and Gale Force, and they were like My rocks.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:When I was working through this, I did have an editor, Randy Barrows, and I think you
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:need to to find good people to help you out.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I'm also really lucky to have a very good supportive partner who he is right there with
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:me, making sure that I'm doing okay.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think that he's okay being in the background.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:But everyone needs to have that supportive group in their lives, whether it's a partner
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:or friends or I think that's really important.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And, you know, I think that the other thing that I learned from the film is that there
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:were really three things that people had in common.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:One was having a good support system, whether it was friends and family.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:That's what made me think of it.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And the other was this attitude adjustment that we talked about, you know, seeing life
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:as a glass half full rather than half empty.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And then third, which I think is really interesting, is everyone in the film had a
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:sense of purpose and also realizing that that sense of purpose could change over time.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I think that that leads back to like when I was younger, I was running around and my
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:sense of purpose was I had two stepkids, raising my stepkids, getting tenure at the
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:university. You know, I had a different sense of purpose than I have now.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Now, my sense of purpose is about connecting generations and doing what I can to have
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:those intergenerational projects happen.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And that's really where my passion lies.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think no matter what age you are, it's really important to have that sense of
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:purpose. And I think a lot of people when they retire, that's why some people have
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:problems because they think they're going to retire and everything's going to be great,
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:But they haven't done the next step of like, what is my sense of purpose now that I it is
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:not tied to my job.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think when we many times when we describe ourselves, at least when we're
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:working, we describe ourselves by the things that we do and the job that we have rather
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:than who we really are as people.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:It's just easier and more shorthand to be able to say, Oh, I'm a professor, and, you
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:know, not to really go deeper into who you are as a person.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so when that's gone, then how do you describe yourself?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And so I think that is a really important thing to keep in mind as people come to that
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:point in their lives or any point in their lives is really thinking about how do you how
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:do you figure out what your sense of purpose is?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And everyone in the film had that, whether it was Lucky Louie making mozzarella for his
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:daughter's deli. Those of you that haven't seen the film, he was a pediatrician.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Everyone here in San Luis Obispo, who is of a certain age, had him as a pediatrician.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:So they love it. But he reinvented himself when he stopped doing that and started being
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:a mozzarella maker or, you know, Paul Wolfe, who was an architect and taught architecture
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:at the university and now still in his nineties, is going about to different high
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:schools, talking about his experience during World War Two.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:He survived and got out of Germany.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:He is Jewish and got out of Germany and talks about discrimination.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And, you know, everybody has a different sense of purpose.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think that that is the drive that keeps people going and keeps people not just
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:going. Because you want to thrive.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think to pull a quote from a good friend of mine, Dr.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Roger Landry, you want to live long and die short, You know, you really want to live live
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:out loud, live full and die quickly.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Yes, absolutely.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:And that's what my whole show is about and my whole coaching program is about finding
Wendy Green:
Speaker:that purpose. And some people get a little overwhelmed.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:But you're right, The show is about these people.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:They had a reason to get up in the morning and they were excited about their days and
Wendy Green:
Speaker:what they were going to be doing.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So it was yeah, it was a beautiful lesson.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So what's next for you?
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Well, I am retired from teaching, although I'm teaching part time through an early
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:retirement program, so I'm semi-retired.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:But I'm writing a book about my experience with the film and also interviewing people
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:that are doing really interesting work, connecting generations.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:So there's one whole chapter that's devoted to that so that it hopefully people will read
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:the book and be inspired to create some of these intergenerational projects in their own
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:community or educational institution.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And working on this Mochizuki film, the extended version of the film that's going to
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:be on PBS. So and then just having fun, you know, you have to have in your life the time
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:for enjoyment and fun.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And it can't all be about work.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:So my priorities at this point are take care of my self.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:That means doing yoga every day and walking every day eating well.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I have a great partner and a great family making sure that I spend time with them.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And then the last thing is I do my work, so it goes.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So it's a total shift of the priorities from when you were younger, which is.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Yes, I think I think I always took care of myself because I had an illness when I was
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:35. And I think that when that happens, when you're young, you realize that you cannot
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:take your body for granted and that you really have to take care of yourself.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:It's sort of that metaphor of you have to put the oxygen mask on yourself first before
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:you can take care of others.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I think that that sometimes is seen as selfish, but in fact, it's very selfless to
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:be able to so that you can be present when you need to be if something happens.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And I experienced that as well.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:So making sure that you take care of yourself first so you can take care of other
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:people, that's really an important lesson to learn.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:You have shared a ton of lessons with us.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Thank you. Thank you.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Thank you. Thank you. So let me tell people how they can reach you.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:You can reach Sky if you want to email her at lives well lived at gmail.com.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:You can also check out the website, which is a huge resource of materials.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:As she said, the questions that are there where you can leave your own stories, how to
Wendy Green:
Speaker:watch this film, a ton of information and that website is live.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Hyphen well hyphen live dot com.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So please do that.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Please watch the movie and let Skye know how much you appreciate the work that she's
Wendy Green:
Speaker:doing. Thank you.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Yeah, you bet. And thanks to everybody that tuned in.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:I see Marty and Susan, Maureen and Deb, thank you so much for writing comments and
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:for everyone else that didn't necessarily already it.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:But it's here. I so appreciate it.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And if you want to really start up your day.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:Right. If you go to the website there's a film stars page and I have my favorite quotes
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:on that page. So if you're looking for inspiration on a daily basis, you can go
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:there and find some great inspiration.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:And Wendy, thank you so much for having me.
Sky Bergman:
Speaker:This was a blast. I really had a great time.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Thanks so much. So glad.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:I'm so glad that you came.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So let me just remind you of a couple of things before we go.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:If you're interested in talking about what's next for yourself, as Skye was saying,
Wendy Green:
Speaker:finding your purpose in this next chapter, drop me an email at Wendy at Hey Boomer Dot
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Biz. If you're interested in finding out more about the relationship coaching that
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Christine Baumgartner does, you can reach her at the perfect catch dot com.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:Just fill out a little questionnaire there and schedule a time to talk to her and next
Wendy Green:
Speaker:week so next week my guest is Ken Dolan Delvecchio Ken is a leader in the field of
Wendy Green:
Speaker:mental health and he now has a podcast called The Pet Los Companion and also a book
Wendy Green:
Speaker:about that. So if you are a pet owner, if you have ever lost a pet, you know how
Wendy Green:
Speaker:difficult that can be.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:So we're going to talk to Ken about grieving the loss of a pet and how to move on from
Wendy Green:
Speaker:that. And I like to leave you all with the reminder that you can live with courage, you
Wendy Green:
Speaker:can live with passion, and you can live with relevance.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:And remember, you are never too old to set another goal or dream a new dream.
Wendy Green:
Speaker:My name is Wendy Green, and this has been.